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#1 05-13-2008 10:04 PM

Veritas
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21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

The Birth of INGSOC is at hand!

Politically correct speech = Newspeak

Speaking from the heart on campus = Thought Crime

Sensitivity training = Room 101

Super Delegates =  the Inner Party

Joe Lieberman = Emmanuel Goldstein

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#2 05-13-2008 10:10 PM

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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

my bad

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#3 05-13-2008 10:52 PM

JRoyC07
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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

Veritas wrote:

Politically correct speech = Newspeak

No

Superdelegates/Islamofascists/neo-cons/punditocracy/Islamist/War on Terror/Axis of Evil/Insurgents/Sectarian = newspeak. amongst many others.

The butchering of our language comes from both sides, but I agree that the media is the worst butcher.

Who is big brother?

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#4 05-14-2008 12:20 PM

axe
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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

Hmm not really. If any nation today is slowly becoming Oceania, it's the UK.


Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose,
The more that things change, the more they stay the same.

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#5 05-14-2008 02:42 PM

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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

It was either my mother or my sister who once disapproved of me using the word "retard", unbottling a rant on how words actually have meanings, and that retarded people are called retarded because they are, in fact, retarded.

What's the latest policor term for retard anyway? Sentience-Oppressed?


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#6 05-14-2008 02:57 PM

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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

Woyzeck wrote:

It was either my mother or my sister who once disapproved of me using the word "retard", unbottling a rant on how words actually have meanings, and that retarded people are called retarded because they are, in fact, retarded.

I think it was T who scolded me for using that term recently (within the last year).

His point was that you wouldn't call a mentally handicapped person "retarded" because it would be hurtful to that person and those around him, and that this was not a function of political correctness, but simple courtesy.

It stikes me that I wouldn't bring up the individual's handicap at all for that reason without regard to the euphemism used.  I do have an underacheiving brother, one with less drive than I have, and no prospect of every actually acheiving anything, but I don't ridicule him for his bad decisions and perma-baked demeanor.


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OK.  Of course I do.


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#7 05-14-2008 03:03 PM

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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

Not knowing your mothers age, I'd imagine it was your sister.

My mother still calls those with Down syndrome, mongoloids.
She refers to a cleft pallet as a hair-lip.


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horse I'm hung like is My Little Pony." ~ 4nonymous

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#8 05-14-2008 03:10 PM

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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

Something about the euphemisms is terribly patronising.

If you called me a bald, old jackass, ...again..., I would say "And?"

If you called me a follically challenged individual with limited diplomatic skills but in the prime of his life, I would kick you in the junk.

I think that's why we call the Mrs' blue handicapped parking hang tag the "Retarded parking sticker".

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#9 05-14-2008 03:13 PM

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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

zukiphile wrote:

I do have an underacheiving brother, one with less drive than I have, and no prospect of every actually acheiving anything, but I don't ridicule him for his bad decisions and perma-baked demeanor.


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OK.  Of course I do.

I can't wait until Slap sees this thread. smile


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#10 05-14-2008 03:13 PM

JRoyC07
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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

Here in NH we're fond of acronyms when describing mentally challenged people.

Quite Unable to Argue Reasonably, Kind of Entertaining Nonetheless.

To keep myself from offending someone I usually just say "challenged"

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#11 05-14-2008 03:14 PM

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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

My mother commenting on my daughters class picture:

"She has three mongoloids in her class!?"

Me:

"It's possible, I have no idea where they're from."


Her somewhat confused stare was funny.


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horse I'm hung like is My Little Pony." ~ 4nonymous

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#12 05-15-2008 04:02 AM

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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

Seabird wrote:

zukiphile wrote:

I do have an underacheiving brother, one with less drive than I have, and no prospect of every actually acheiving anything, but I don't ridicule him for his bad decisions and perma-baked demeanor.


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OK.  Of course I do.

I can't wait until Slap sees this thread. smile

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#13 05-17-2008 05:41 PM

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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

Woyzeck wrote:

It was either my mother or my sister who once disapproved of me using the word "retard", unbottling a rant on how words actually have meanings, and that retarded people are called retarded because they are, in fact, retarded.

What's the latest policor term for retard anyway? Sentience-Oppressed?

My wife hates the term (she works with "them", as do I), and the company we work for (with retarded in its name no less) shuns the word. I still use it, because it is accurate and all-encompassing. In Canada the correct term is peoples with developmental disabilities. That said, one of he 'fakers' I work with (she is certainly not retarded) used the term retarded when referring to the last season of 'Touched by an Angel'.

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#14 05-17-2008 07:57 PM

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Re: 21st Century Liberalism vs. 1984

Is the term spastic still acceptable?

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