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#1 05-14-2008 12:16 PM

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Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id … _article=1

Albert Einstein described belief in God as "childish superstition" and said Jews were not the chosen people, in a letter to be sold in London this week, an auctioneer said Tuesday.

The father of relativity, whose previously known views on religion have been more ambivalent and fuelled much discussion, made the comments in response to a philosopher in 1954.

As a Jew himself, Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people".

"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.

"No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this," he wrote in the letter written on January 3, 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind, cited by The Guardian newspaper.

The German-language letter is being sold Thursday by Bloomsbury Auctions in Mayfair after being in a private collection for more than 50 years, said the auction house's managing director Rupert Powell.

In it, the renowned scientist, who declined an invitation to become Israel's second president, rejected the idea that the Jews are God's chosen people.

"For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions," he said.

"And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people."

And he added: "As far as my experience goes, they are no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."

Previously the great scientist's comments on religion -- such as "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind" -- have been the subject of much debate, used notably to back up arguments in favour of faith.

Powell said the letter being sold this week gave a clear reflection of Einstein's real thoughts on the subject. "He's fairly unequivocal as to what he's saying. There's no beating about the bush," he told AFP.

So the (arguably) most brilliant mind of the past century shrugs off religion as a childish superstition... What say you?


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#2 05-14-2008 12:59 PM

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Re: Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

axe wrote:

So the (arguably) most brilliant mind of the past century shrugs off religion as a childish superstition... What say you?

A man who dedicated his entire existence to an exclusively scientific furthering of man's knowledge of his place in the universe didn't believe in God? Shocking!

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#3 05-14-2008 01:35 PM

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Re: Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

axe wrote:

So the (arguably) most brilliant mind of the past century shrugs off religion as a childish superstition... What say you?

I'd say it's funny considering he also said; "God does not play dice with the Universe."


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#4 05-14-2008 01:41 PM

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Re: Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

axe wrote:

So the (arguably) most brilliant mind of the past century shrugs off religion as a childish superstition... What say you?

Well yeah, but where does he stand on Santa?










Ok, that's the last (maybe 2nd to last) time I'll reference that thread.

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#5 05-14-2008 02:05 PM

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Re: Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

axe wrote:

So the (arguably) most brilliant mind of the past century shrugs off religion as a childish superstition... What say you?

I agree, but did he make the distinction between religion and an almighty?

I wish he had devoted some of his intellect to theological problems.

I dont think his theory of koala relativity was complete enough to really stand on its own with the law of suffering and the postulate of absolute benevolence.

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#6 05-14-2008 02:32 PM

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Re: Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

Einstein didn't know everything. People need to get it through their fucking heads that intelligence and wisdom are not mutually inclusive.

Not that I go in for the idea of a spiritual elite, just that I find the idea that science somehow negates the possible existence of a higher power to be profoundly trite and unimaginative.


Escher- I believe he also said that he, "wanted to know the thoughts of God, everything else is just details".

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#7 05-14-2008 06:58 PM

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Re: Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

Woyzeck wrote:

Not that I go in for the idea of a spiritual elite, just that I find the idea that science somehow negates the possible existence of a higher power to be profoundly trite and unimaginative.

Which is why it's so common among Atheists.


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#8 05-15-2008 12:22 AM

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Re: Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

The Scientific Inquisition which seems to plague the internet these days entertains me to no end with their evangelical fervor in slandering anyone and everyone* who refuses to believe in their unproven negative. Even being agnostic often isn't enough with these asshats.


*Except Obama, Rev. Wright, etc.


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