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maxor · 06-20-2008 05:35 PM

Seems like in the past everyone gave the GOP a hard time because they had these corporate donors giving their candidates money and it was ruining the system.

Now you've got a race between the GOPs biggest proponent of campaign finance reform and public campaign financing and a super popular democrat. It seems that the tables have turned and Obama is raking in the cash from all over the place and doesn't want to limit himself to the restrictions of public financing.

Is this just politics?

Peter · 06-20-2008 05:38 PM

Add to that the fact that Republicans suck at grassroots online fundraising compared to democrats.

Ron Paul is an anomaly. Mental patients are able to donate online apparently.

dubfan · 06-20-2008 11:18 PM

Peter wrote:
Add to that the fact that Republicans suck at grassroots online fundraising compared to democrats.

Only until this election year (when they've somehow managed to nominate a candidate that only 12% of the base is satisfied with). The GOP's grassroots organizing, fund-raising, and GOTV efforts have historically been much stronger than the Dems. It's one of the reasons the Dems routinely tend to lose Presidential elections.

dubfan · 06-20-2008 11:27 PM

maxor wrote:
Is this just politics?

I don't mind that he turned down public financing. That's his right as a candidate.

What I do mind is all of this rhetoric about him being some kind of figure who transcends politics when this episode plainly shows he's a shameless liar just like the rest of them, and his repeated BS claim that he would've taken public financing, but for mean old John McCain giving him no choice but to take the private financing. It's crap: he opted out of public financing and went with private for ONE reason: one was worth $85M and one looks to be worth close to $500M (estimated). Everything he's saying to the contrary is spin or lies.

Qwinn · 06-20-2008 11:43 PM

Yeah, his BS claim that "we've already seen that Republican 527's are lying and smearing us" (paraphrased) was complete BS, there haven't been -any- Republican 527's in action this election. At all.

The funny thing about that, though, is the reason. The reason there are no conservative 527's this election cycle is because those who would be interested in setting one up are afraid that no matter how in-bounds and civil they are, no matter how justified the issues they raise, the -Republican- candidate will accuse them of engaging in appalling conduct and hold a grudge against them.

Can't imagine why they'd have any such concerns. Well, other than the fact that the Republican candidate has backstabbed conservatives who were -helping- him, and who were -not- doing anything improper, so many times I've lost count.

The price of being a "maverick", I guess.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/267114.php

But, in explaining the absence of any anti-Obama groups this time around, every individual interviewed for this story cited the same central reason: a fear that their party’s nominee will publicly denounce them and hold a grudge.

Qwinn

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Evollusion · 06-23-2008 01:21 PM

I've concluded that Obama is going to be the next president, as well as the next Jimmah Cahtah. I'll just have to hope for better in 4 years.

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