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#1 06-25-2008 06:54 PM

Qwinn
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This is what ACTUAL media manipulation looks like

Since some here apparently construe "accurate quotes" as "misquoting and distortions", here's a lesson in how the media -actually- manipulates and distorts the public's perceptions.

When Is a 19-Point Gap “Narrow” and a 12-Point Gap “Sizable”? When It’s the L.A. Times Doing the Measuring!

Filed under: 2008 Election, Dog Trainer, General — Patterico @ 7:41 pm

The L.A. Times is reporting that Barack Obama leads John McCain by 12 points in a national poll. (If you toss in Ralph Nader and Bob Barr it’s a 15-point lead.)

Guess how they describe that margin?

Wait! Don’t answer yet.

First, recall that, when a poll found a much larger 19-point lead for opponents of gay marriage, this very newspaper told us:

    * voters “slimly reject” gay marriage

    * voters “narrowly reject” gay marriage

    * voters reject gay marriage by
          o a “small margin”
          o a “narrow margin”
          o “a bit”

    * a “bare majority” opposes gay marriage

Remembering that, how do you think the L.A. Times is describing Obama’s much smaller 12-point lead?

A “teensy-tiny margin”? A “wafer-thin gap”? “Not even a majority”?

You guessed it:

    Buoyed by enthusiasm among Democrats and public concern over the economy, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has captured a sizable lead over Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) at the opening of the general election campaign for president, the Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll has found.

    In a two-man race between the major party candidates, registered voters chose Obama over McCain by 49% to 37% in the national poll conducted last weekend.

Sounds like the country is “in play” for McCain!

UPDATE: Another McCain — Robert Stacy McCain — argues that the L.A. Times has oversampled young voters and undersampled the geezers who are more likely to vote for the “older than dirt” McCain. He supports his argument by reference to exit polls from 2004.

Heh.

http://patterico.com/2008/06/24/when-is … measuring/

Qwinn

Last edited by Qwinn (06-25-2008 06:55 PM)


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#2 06-25-2008 06:56 PM

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Re: This is what ACTUAL media manipulation looks like

There have been a number of similar examples relating to economics recently.

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#3 06-26-2008 11:50 AM

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Re: This is what ACTUAL media manipulation looks like

maxor wrote:

There have been a number of similar examples relating to economics recently.

Especially regarding unemployment.


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#4 06-26-2008 12:32 PM

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Re: This is what ACTUAL media manipulation looks like

Watched CBS News lately?  (Or, should I say, See! BS...)

One puff piece after another with O smiling and carrying on, after 15 solid minutes of that drivel, a negative story (30 seconds) on McCain.

Though I certainly don't advocate the fairness doctrine (nothing fair when one side decides the concept of "fair") there could at least be some semblance of equal time applied, ala Fox's fair and balanced.


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#5 06-26-2008 12:44 PM

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Re: This is what ACTUAL media manipulation looks like

glfredrick wrote:

a la Fox's fair and balanced.

lmao


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#6 06-26-2008 01:16 PM

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Re: This is what ACTUAL media manipulation looks like

Fox might not be completely fair and balanced, but they are more so than any of the other media outlets.


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#7 06-26-2008 01:23 PM

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Re: This is what ACTUAL media manipulation looks like

Evollusion wrote:

Fox might not be completely fair and balanced, but they are more so than any of the other media outlets.

All media outlets are unbalanced. It's a fundamental reality, and someone who says "source X is unbalanced, you should all listen to source Y" is hopelessly deluded. The best one can do is get information from as many sources as possible, and use them to filter out each others' bullshit.


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