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#26 07-08-2008 08:33 PM

Charles Taylor
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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

zukiphile wrote:

Raoul Duke wrote:

Then again, I knew all you here who have insulted Guinness were bubbling cauldrons of anti-Mick sentiment.

That's very unfair.  Everyone likes all the other facets of irish cuisine, what with the boiled potato and the....uh....

...need a little help here.

Meh, it's not really cuisine, so much as it's beer drinking accoutrement.

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#27 07-08-2008 08:33 PM

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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

Charles Taylor wrote:

I'm starting to see a trend here.  Can we make it 3 for 3?

How about the whole damn kit-n-kaboodle?

http://www.npboards.com/thread/12918/hey

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#28 07-08-2008 08:52 PM

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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

Seabird wrote:

Charles Taylor wrote:

I'm starting to see a trend here.  Can we make it 3 for 3?

How about the whole damn kit-n-kaboodle?

http://www.npboards.com/thread/12918/hey

Heh, not sure how I missed that.  I'm often suprised how the revolving door here isn't spinning at maximum warp.

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#29 07-08-2008 08:55 PM

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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

Bitch couldn't hack it.


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#30 07-08-2008 09:09 PM

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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

I actually totally missed that thread too.  Amusing read.

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#31 07-09-2008 01:21 AM

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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

Charles Taylor wrote:

Raoul Duke wrote:

The U.K. has other fish to fry - they're too busy making sure no Muslim ever has to see an offensive, hideous puppy again.

I'm starting to see a trend here.  Can we make it 3 for 3?

If you feel there is good reason aside from knee-jerk PC idiocy to report a three year old, hell, even a 6 year old for potential though cri....er racism based on distaste for a certain type of food I would love to hear it.  I'm looking for some type of evidence that the almost universal reaction children have to unfamiliar foods is rooted in something aside from their childish nature.  I'm interested to hear how a rational person would conclude that most every child on the planet is ethnically biased against the Flemish people. 

Or is this only to be applied to foods with origins in the land of the PC most favored status?


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#32 07-09-2008 02:21 AM

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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

Never been to England.  My little sister did a year as an exchange student BGSU(Ohio)-UEA (University of East Anglia).  Did you know that the students are given money to buy booze?  There  is a university subsidized club known as the Crawl Club (aka The Drunken Shits) that is dedicated to students getting drunk on the taxpayers tab by going from pub to pub in Norwich...

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#33 07-09-2008 04:15 AM

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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

Raoul Duke wrote:

I'm looking for some type of evidence that the almost universal reaction children have to unfamiliar foods is rooted in something aside from their childish nature.

That answer is probably dependent on whether you believe it is possible that a child could learn racism at a young age.  I'm not questioning the normality of children making preferences for or against foods with certain attributes of taste (i.e. "Yuk, that spicy food is bad"), but whether teachers should be able to recognize when children are making preferences based on attributes of race exclusively.

For example:

If a 5 year old Black child sees two Korean women bringing in covered food, and makes the statement "I don't want those people's food."  At what age (if any), would you say it's appropriate for a teacher overhearing that comment to ask the simple question, "What makes you say that?"

That's not "knee-jerk PC idiocy", that's setting the kid up to think for Christ's sake.  So, when he answers, "Because my daddy says those people eat Max for dinner.", the teacher can walk him over and show him that plate of Kimchi isn't made of dog meat at all, and then let him objectively try what will become the worst moment of his life.  Then he can hate Korean food once and for all.

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#34 07-09-2008 04:25 AM

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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

Charles Taylor wrote:

Raoul Duke wrote:

I'm looking for some type of evidence that the almost universal reaction children have to unfamiliar foods is rooted in something aside from their childish nature.

That answer is probably dependent on whether you believe it is possible that a child could learn racism at a young age.  I'm not questioning the normality of children making preferences for or against foods with certain attributes of taste (i.e. "Yuk, that spicy food is bad"), but whether teachers should be able to recognize when children are making preferences based on attributes of race exclusively.

For example:

If a 5 year old Black child sees two Korean women bringing in covered food, and makes the statement "I don't want those people's food."  At what age (if any), would you say it's appropriate for a teacher overhearing that comment to ask the simple question, "What makes you say that?"

That's not "knee-jerk PC idiocy", that's setting the kid up to think for Christ's sake.  So, when the he answers, "Because my daddy says those people eat Max for dinner.", the teacher can walk him over and show him that plate of Kimchi isn't made of dog meat at all, and then let him objectively try what will become the worst moment of his life.  Then he can hate Korean food once and for all.

Can't say I would disagree - at least that it becomes a racist remark as you state it.  If the kid said "I don't want to eat those people's food", I would say any sane person might discern there could be a learned racism at work. 

However - as the article states it:

This could include a child of as young as three who says "yuk" in response to being served unfamiliar foreign food

That sheer unadulterated indefensible PC idiocy. 

The fact that you needed to change it to a situation of obvious racial bias to attempt a defense of the program as stated speaks to its pusillanimity. 

We can move on to discussing the idea of reporting possible racism - even in the case you state - in another discussion.  We can all think of Mark Steyn and the Canadian Human Rights Commissions hearings as we discuss it.  Sounds far fetched, but most school administrative types are the same sort who are behind the formation of those committees. 

"So, little Billy - what was your motive when you said you don't like Middle Eastern cuisine?"


"The idea that you can merchandise candidates for high office like breakfast cereal - that you can gather votes like box tops - is... the ultimate indignity to the democratic process." 
~Adlai Stevenson, speech, Democratic National Convention, 18 August 1956

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#35 07-10-2008 12:27 AM

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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

Can we just sink all of great britain and be done with it?

Britain: Come for the bad food, stay for the lousy weather!

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#36 07-10-2008 05:21 AM

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Re: Don't like salsa? RACIST!!1!11!

Airstrip One will be gassed to clear out the riff raff for the Islamo-Oceania war.

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