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Veritas · 07-15-2008 09:47 PM

I guess the real debate is: "Who will own the remote control of Robot Obama should the gadget win?" They would make a great SNL skit! A bunch of idiots fighting over a remote then at the end we see that it controls c3po wearing an Obama mask

OBAMA TO CATHOLICS: NO VOUCHERS
July 15, 2008

When he was a state senator in Illinois in June 2002, Barack Obama was explicitly asked by Chicago media personality Jeff Berkowitz whether he supports school vouchers. “I would support anything that is going to be better for the children of Illinois,” he said. He emphatically added that “I am not closed minded on the issue.”

In February 2008, Obama spoke to reporters from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel about the issue. Still keeping an open mind, he said, “If there was any argument for vouchers, it was ‘Let’s see if the experiment works.’ And if it does, whatever my preconception, you do what’s best for kids.”

However, last Saturday Obama told the American Federation of Teachers that he was opposed to vouchers. When his campaign was asked about his new position, it released a statement saying, “Senator Obama has always been a critic of vouchers.”

Commenting today is Catholic League president Bill Donohue:

“Guess Obama couldn’t resist pandering to the teachers union. It’s so easy to tell the media that keeping an open mind on school vouchers is the best way to go. But when cash counts—and the American Federation of Teachers has plenty of it—who cares about principle? Fact is, no amount of empirical evidence was ever going to change his mind.

“Obama now joins a long list of African American elites who wouldn’t dare send their kids to an urban public school, but who works hard at every turn to deny poor black parents the same options he and his wife are so lucky to have. We hope that Catholics, as well as African Americans, get the message.”

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Iron Sun 254 · 07-16-2008 12:35 PM

It's a question as old as time...Was he lying then, is he lying now? Had the statement been "Senator Obama doesn't support vouchers," I could have cut him some slack because he could have changed his mind, but to claim he was always a critic is bullshit.

SoulWrangler · 07-16-2008 08:47 PM

To be honest Ive always been disappointed with obama. Sure, hes black, and because of that we can expect major changes to the system in washington, but hillary... she can lactate. You know, if the prices of food keep going up, were really gonna need that ability of hers. For the children, you know. But overall, hes a pretty good guy. Stop giving him such a bad rap. I bet youre just being racist; there was probably just a miscommunication, or the reporters are lying.

Raoul Duke · 07-16-2008 08:53 PM

It's part of the change he's promising.

He'll hope you don't notice when he changes his stances on major issues.

glfredrick · 07-16-2008 10:38 PM

He'll hope that you don't remember WHICH promise he made, once in office, so he can be free to bring in true "change." Sadly, that change will likely be Marxist in nature...

From his book (Page 101, "Dreams of My Father"):

To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Fraz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground our our cigarettes in the hallway carpet of set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling conventions. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. But this strategy alone couldn't provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce [another multi-racial individual, who had sold out to the whites] or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerant. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.

Seabird · 07-16-2008 10:40 PM

Now, I'm no Obama supporter, but that passage reads to me like he's being more sardonic and self-deprecating than literal.

Raoul Duke · 07-17-2008 01:12 PM

Seabird wrote:
Now, I'm no Obama supporter, but that passage reads to me like he's being more sardonic and self-deprecating than literal.

Why do you hate white people?

Seabird · 07-17-2008 02:37 PM

I'm afraid that you don't understand me at all Duke. I hate America.

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#1 07-15-2008 09:47 PM

Obama on vouchers:"Maybe", "Let's see" and now "NO!" -Kisses union ass

#2 07-16-2008 12:35 PM

Re: Obama on vouchers:"Maybe", "Let's see" and now "NO!" -Kisses union ass

#3 07-16-2008 08:47 PM

Re: Obama on vouchers:"Maybe", "Let's see" and now "NO!" -Kisses union ass

#4 07-16-2008 08:53 PM

Re: Obama on vouchers:"Maybe", "Let's see" and now "NO!" -Kisses union ass

#5 07-16-2008 10:38 PM

Re: Obama on vouchers:"Maybe", "Let's see" and now "NO!" -Kisses union ass

#6 07-16-2008 10:40 PM

Re: Obama on vouchers:"Maybe", "Let's see" and now "NO!" -Kisses union ass

#7 07-17-2008 01:12 PM

Re: Obama on vouchers:"Maybe", "Let's see" and now "NO!" -Kisses union ass

Seabird wrote:

#8 07-17-2008 02:37 PM

Re: Obama on vouchers:"Maybe", "Let's see" and now "NO!" -Kisses union ass

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