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#1 07-23-2008 08:04 PM

Seabird
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Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

A lot of analysts and economists have been saying over the last month that if oil drops below $125, we might see a massive sell off of oil futures, driving the price down even further. Supposedly so many speculators continued to buy in at or above above that number, they'd start dumping their losses and taking profits on oil they bought at $110-120 in order to cover those losses. This will in turn continue to force prices down. Rinse, repeat. High inventories and a slightly stronger dollar seem to have sparked the sell off. Let's see if there is a rapid drop over the rest of the week and just how many so-called "paper barrels" leave the market.

Also, will this have some impact on the election? PURE speculation here:

Could <$99 oil be McCain's October Surprise?


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#2 07-23-2008 08:06 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Seabird wrote:

Could <$99 oil be McCain's October Surprise?

You won't read it anywhere but a financial page.  It will be a non-story.


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#3 07-23-2008 08:08 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Seabird wrote:

Could <$99 oil be McCain's October Surprise?

Only if Obama doesn't find a way to take credit for it.


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#4 07-23-2008 08:16 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Raoul Duke wrote:

Seabird wrote:

Could <$99 oil be McCain's October Surprise?

Only if Obama doesn't find a way to take credit for it.

That would never happen. Obama isn't like that.


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#5 07-23-2008 08:16 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

I hope it happens for no other reason than to give the TCL tinfoilers apoplectic fits. big_smile


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#6 07-23-2008 08:17 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

T wrote:

Raoul Duke wrote:

Seabird wrote:

Could <$99 oil be McCain's October Surprise?

Only if Obama doesn't find a way to take credit for it.

That would never happen. Obama isn't like that.

That's not the Obama that I knew.


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#7 07-23-2008 08:17 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Seabird wrote:

I hope it happens for no other reason than to give the TCL tinfoilers apoplectic fits. big_smile

OMFG!  Now we'll nevar get the Lupo!!!


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#8 07-23-2008 08:18 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Raoul Duke wrote:

T wrote:

Raoul Duke wrote:


Only if Obama doesn't find a way to take credit for it.

That would never happen. Obama isn't like that.

That's not the Obama that I knew.

[/] sarcasm


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#9 07-23-2008 08:19 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Seabird wrote:

I hope it happens for no other reason than to give the TCL tinfoilers apoplectic fits. big_smile

Doesn't being awake pretty much take care of that?


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#10 07-23-2008 08:25 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

I went to college with Obama. He was pretty cool at first except for when he'd break out with the Malcolm X records. Even that would have been, you know, cool or whatever, but he'd also smoke all our shit and not bring any of his own. One time we all were trying to go in on a lid of premo sensimilla and I was all like, hey B, you wanna throw in for some of this?, and he was all like naw, I don't do that shit anymore. He said he was trying to live all straight and shit. So anyway, finally Ronnie shows up with the bud and we're all lightin up and Obama laughs all suave and cool and shit and says okay, you talked me into it. Just a couple of hits with my white bros for old time sake.

I mean, WTF man?! Anyway, he's a punk or whatever, but I'll still vote for him because I don't want another 5 years of Bush.


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#11 07-23-2008 08:27 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

LOL.......


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#12 07-23-2008 08:35 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Seabird wrote:

...I don't want another 5 years of Bush.

Praise.


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#13 07-24-2008 02:06 AM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

It should be obvious that the speculators are just selling off to cover themselves from lawsuits that certain senators of a somewhat more communistic style of thinking might be bringing onto them for playing unfairly.


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“Oh, surely not,” said the traveller. “Well, perhaps not the largest,” said the citizen, “but much the best.”
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#14 07-24-2008 02:18 AM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

SoulWrangler wrote:

It should be obvious that the speculators are just selling off to cover themselves from lawsuits that certain senators of a somewhat more communistic style of thinking might be bringing onto them for playing unfairly.

I disagree. The reasons C stated are completely valid. Given this prediction you may also see a lot of short selling which will further deflate the market. That said, you can't time the market.


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#15 07-24-2008 02:28 AM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Now we can institute that Gore Tax.

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#16 07-24-2008 04:06 AM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Seabird wrote:

Also, will this have some impact on the election? PURE speculation here:

Could <$99 oil be McCain's October Surprise?

Maybe I missed something.  How is this his doing?

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#17 07-24-2008 04:15 AM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Biker Dude wrote:

Maybe I missed something.  How is this his doing?

In the exact same way that the high prices are BushChimpCoHaliburtonMcCheney's fault.

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#18 07-24-2008 12:26 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Ah.  So market forces do not exist, everything is controlled by the elites, is that it?  Thanks.

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#19 07-24-2008 12:31 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Biker Dude wrote:

Ah.  So market forces do not exist, everything is controlled by the elites, is that it?  Thanks.

The sarcasm is weak with this one.


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#20 07-24-2008 01:04 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

axe wrote:

Biker Dude wrote:

Ah.  So market forces do not exist, everything is controlled by the elites, is that it?  Thanks.

The sarcasm is weak with this one.

And he smites me for it lol

Fall out of bed this morning?


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#21 07-24-2008 01:09 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Biker Dude wrote:

Ah.  So market forces do not exist, everything is controlled by the elites, is that it?  Thanks.

Indeed.  Bush is simultaneously the stupidest man who sat in the Oval office and the brilliant man who secretly controls every aspect of the economy.


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#22 07-24-2008 01:14 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Iron Sun 254 wrote:

Biker Dude wrote:

Ah.  So market forces do not exist, everything is controlled by the elites, is that it?  Thanks.

Indeed.  Bush is simultaneously the stupidest man who sat in the Oval office and the brilliant man who secretly controls every aspect of the economy.

dgm wrote:

In the exact same way that the high prices are BushChimpCoHaliburtonMcCheney's fault.

The timing is awfully convenient.


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#23 07-24-2008 02:10 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Biker Dude - You have to know The Car Lounge to understand the context of the joke. Also, please see the number of Democrats who claim that the run up in oil prices is Bush's fault since the increases came during his time in office, he's a supposed "oil man", and Cheney was the CEO of Halliburton, etc... Expect to hear lots of, "Isn't it conveeeeeeenient that oil prices are coming down during the general election?".


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#24 07-24-2008 02:14 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Biker Dude wrote:

Ah.  So market forces do not exist, everything is controlled by the elites, is that it?

So says Nancy Pelosi. big_smile


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#25 07-24-2008 02:16 PM

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Re: Oil down below the magic $125 today. Impact?

Bush steered Hurricane Dolly away from the oil rigs in the Gulf.

He let it hit part of Texas so as not to raise suspicion.

Impressive stuff.

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