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#26 09-16-2008 01:39 AM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

Charles Louis Montesquieu was French.
He came up with the idea of a legislative, executive, and judicial branch.
He also came up with the entire "checks and balances" thing (or may of just came up with the name for it)


And here you can find some of the people who influenced the constitution.
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761 … tates.html
Section IV "Ideas behind the constitution"

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#27 09-16-2008 02:00 AM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

EscapeVelocity wrote:

What does Justice Ginsberg mean when she says that we should look to Europe and International Intitutions to interpret US law?

it means we should open the collective american mind to see how laws are interpreted in other countries that have longer and stronger traditions of law and justice. we may be able to heal the problems of our legal system and bring about change by looking outward to see how our laws can be read

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#28 09-16-2008 02:04 AM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

SoulWrangler wrote:

Ive taken a few paralegal courses, and if Im correct, our laws are actually far too advanced for humans to have come up with ourselves. We stole them off of an alien space ship that crash landed here thousands of years ago.

You have officially said too much.

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#29 09-16-2008 12:18 PM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

SoulWrangler wrote:

Ive taken a few paralegal courses, and if Im correct, our laws are actually far too advanced for humans to have come up with ourselves. We stole them off of an alien space ship that crash landed here thousands of years ago.

I've seen a few mentions of some laws on the internets in my time, and this seems legit.


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#30 09-16-2008 12:41 PM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

SoulWrangler wrote:

Ive taken a few paralegal courses, and if Im correct, our laws are actually far too advanced for humans to have come up with ourselves. We stole them off of an alien space ship that crash landed here thousands of years ago.

But where did they get them from?


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#31 09-16-2008 12:56 PM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

AudiCQ wrote:

Charles Louis Montesquieu was French.
He came up with the idea of a legislative, executive, and judicial branch.
He also came up with the entire "checks and balances" thing (or may of just came up with the name for it)

Indeed.

There are many people in the world of political philosophy who had some influence on the COTUS, the revolution including some who ere french, german and ancient greek.  This doesn't really mean that our system of laws is derived from french, german or ancient greek law.

Our tradition is that of english common law.  Though Louisiana claims some influence from nepoleonic code that isn't really how it functions.


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#32 09-16-2008 07:21 PM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

I believe he means his goals are for everyone to love each other in the "Why can't we all just get along." style. He learned it from his mother most likely, she loves all the citizens of the world, allot.

His liberalism is key though. The fact that he can say such a thing and get away with it. You do realize he tells Unions they're jobs will be protected yet his plan is the New World Order, which means in my best estimation he wants all countries to be 2nd world countries. Lower 1st world and raise the 3rd world. Averaging out life for everyone.

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#33 09-16-2008 07:26 PM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

hypothetical wrote:

his plan is the New World Order

Ohohoho why hello there! Welcome to NPB.


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#34 09-16-2008 09:24 PM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

IronSun: The best answer I can give for that is that the aliens actually created the universe and shaped the physical constraints that it is governed under in a way that allowed the laws to exist at certain points in binary code in certain transcendental numbers such as pi, which we interpreted into our own language with our knowledge of math and computer science.

Where the creator aliens got those laws from, I havent got a fuck of a clue. The universal constant that inspires obama, possibly?


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“Oh, surely not,” said the traveller. “Well, perhaps not the largest,” said the citizen, “but much the best.”
“You are certainly wrong there,” said the traveller. “I can tell you . . .”
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#35 09-16-2008 09:37 PM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

I saw that episode of X Files too, which revealed the text of several religions, the literal word of God, printed in alien Rossetta stone on the outside of the Alien Spacecraft.

Anybody seen the new X Files movie?

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#36 09-16-2008 09:48 PM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

Actually got it out of Contact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(novel)#A_message_from_God_in_pi


“LOOK round you,” said the citizen. “This is the largest market in the world.”
“Oh, surely not,” said the traveller. “Well, perhaps not the largest,” said the citizen, “but much the best.”
“You are certainly wrong there,” said the traveller. “I can tell you . . .”
They buried the stranger at the dusk.

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#37 09-16-2008 10:44 PM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

axe wrote:

hypothetical wrote:

his plan is the New World Order

Ohohoho why hello there! Welcome to NPB.

Thank you for your welcome. I am hoping to really get into the issues here. Haven't had a bunch of time to troll around yet

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#38 09-17-2008 08:43 PM

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Re: What does BHO mean in describing himself as a "citizen of the world"?

zukiphile wrote:

AudiCQ wrote:

I believe thundersnow is right... If I remember correctly, our constitution was written based on some French school of thought from back then. Our government was "modeled" after the Romans too if I recall.

No.

Our founding fathers were big fans of this guy http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/blackstone/ and a lot of our law is based on his work.  Our legal system is based on English Common Law, which is a departure of sorts from Roman Law.  The French still adhere to a system similar to Roman law.  The big distinction is that common law systems places a lot of value on precedent, the results of similar trials, etc.  Roman and Napoleanic law is the opposite, rejecting precedent and instead relying on the written law.

Having said that and not knowing the context in which Obama made the statement, I'd assume he said it to pander to the common perception among Americans that the rest of the world thinks we're stupid, self-centered morons.  Furthermore we act unilaterally and rashly.  These same people believe GW did a lot to promote this stereotype (or even prove its truth), and they believe that Obama can help reverse this.  I don't see it as much more than that.

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