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#1 10-19-2004 05:19 PM

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May we contact your current employer?

sure you may... after you hand me my first new paycheck.

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#2 10-19-2004 05:35 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

Double Down wrote:

Obin Robinson wrote:

sure you may... after you hand me my first new paycheck.

obin

that's my thought.  it's not uncommon for persons to look for alternative employment whilst employed.  most don't have the luxury of quitting first then engaging in the work search and any contact with current employers will very likely result in firing.

EXACTLY!

in other words...

do you want to hire me or not?  if you DO then contact my current employer for sure.  if you don't then please don't bother them, get me fired, and make me go postal on your ass.

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#3 10-19-2004 05:35 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

If they have two or three previous employers prior to your current one to contact, then the hirer will usually be satisfied and leave your current one off the list.

Otherwise, ask them just what types of questions they want to ask. Can they leave it general? Make it sound like a credit reference check? If so then I'd even give my boss a headsup that ABC Credit or Stan's Furniture or First State Bank will be contacting them to confirm employment.

Most HR reps know the score and are willing to play ball to a certain extent. If they want to be a hardass about it, then I wouldn't want to work for them anyway. Just MO...


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#4 10-19-2004 06:06 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

I thought it was illegal for your current (previous, too?) employee to say anything about you other than to confirm your dates of hire and job title.  Do these questions not count?

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#5 10-19-2004 06:28 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

Here's a question, when the potential employer asks you what you are currently making...do you lie? big_smile


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#6 10-19-2004 07:13 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

VWVancouver wrote:

I rounded up when I had an interview earlier in the year big_smile Wasn't much though.

LMFAO Ditto big_smile


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#7 10-19-2004 07:21 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

In the past, when i've already been employed I've always said no, and it's given me no trouble... I've been fairly succesful using this method every time. If you got the credentials, you got the credentials.


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#8 10-19-2004 07:32 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

I applied for a position at another company years ago and specifically noted that my application be strictly confidential.  Within a few weeks I was called to the HR office for my exit interview because "we understand you're looking" :roll:  Good ol' boys network :nak:

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#9 10-19-2004 07:55 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

No. 6 wrote:

I applied for a position at another company years ago and specifically noted that my application be strictly confidential.  Within a few weeks I was called to the HR office for my exit interview because "we understand you're looking" :roll:  Good ol' boys network :nak:

from now on do what i do...

keep a hard drive on top of your computer with a high caliber bullet hole in it.  then just let imaginations run wild.  it's pretty good job security.

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#10 10-19-2004 08:19 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

lerker wrote:

Double Down wrote:

we're a 'satellite' office so our HR contact is the admin assist to the CFO.  she thinks her britches are bigger than they are so i have no confidence that if they call that she'll exercise discretion.  also, our company has a record of letting go those whom they suspect of leaving.

edit: you don't give 2 weeks, because they'll fire you upon notice then you've got a 2 week un-paid vacation

if they fire you, couldn't you collect unemployment for the term between jobs?  i guess you couldn't if you had another job lined up though...

Umemployment really doesn't pay a whole lot.


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#11 10-19-2004 09:21 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

i've never said "yes" to that question...

and if there's a "reason" column: "conflict of interest"

there's no need for a potential employer to call your current employer.


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#12 10-19-2004 09:42 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

MiataMan wrote:

I just don't know how well it goes over, I guess.  Like I said, I would think a potential employer would want to talk to someone about your past employment record/work record.  :shrug:

Yes, of course they want to, but it's usually not in the applicant's best interest if he/she is still employed.  That's why they ask.

I think the only way I would check Yes would be if all of the following are true:

* You're only pursuing one opportunity (not just submitting your resume to every company under the sun).
* You're reasonably certain that you'll be offered the job.
* You have a good relationship with your current employer.
* You suspect your current employer might counter-offer to keep you.
* You talk to your supervisor and let him/her know that "an opportunity for career growth presented itself" (passively, not like you were actively LOOKING for another job) and he/she should expect to be contacted.  Don't let it be a surprise.
* You are certain that you won't be fired on the spot when bringing up the previous point.

If any of those are not true, you should probably check No.  And as Emily suggested, "Conflict of interest" is a good reason.


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#13 10-19-2004 09:53 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

My wife, who's worked for her company for <1yr, wanted to apply for a higher level, in-house, position in a different group and had to get her current mgr to sign off on it.  That must have been an awkward conversation: "Hi.  I want to go work for that group across the hall and I'd like your blessing."  "Uh...what's wrong with this group?"  "Nothing, but that one pays better." big_smile

As for rounding up, I've traditionally included any annual bonus as salary when specifying my current pay.  I think that's fair.

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#14 10-19-2004 10:04 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

No way, no how.

They can talk to all of my previous employers other than the one where I am currently employed. I'm not about to tip my hand.

This approach has served me well.

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#15 10-20-2004 05:34 PM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

I voted no because that's what I told the headhunter that contacted me about my current job.  I didn't want my previous employer to know I was looking.

It's against our policy here to say anything about an employee when another company calls looking for references.  All you can really say is that they did or did not work here.

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#16 10-21-2004 02:52 AM

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Re: May we contact your current employer?

My understanding of Pennsylvania law is that a prospective employer can only call your current or last employer and ask them to verify the dates you worked for them. They can't ask "Hey what kind of employee was Karl Lazlo?..."

They can only ask if you worked for them and from what time period. This is PA law so it might be different elsewhere.

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